The taxonomic group that you searched for but did not find (eg Papilionoidea if you were searching for butterflies and found none).

Datatype: taxon
Created by: jon_sullivan jon_sullivan

Observations specifying this field

Observation Taxon sought but not found

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What

Coprosma (Genus Coprosma)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 02:02 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Supplejack (Ripogonum scandens)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:58 PM NZDT
unknown

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Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:56 PM NZDT
unknown

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New Zealand Cabbage Tree (Cordyline australis)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:51 PM NZDT
unknown

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Fleabanes and Horseweeds (Genus Erigeron)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:50 PM NZDT
unknown

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Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:50 PM NZDT
unknown

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Fleabanes and Horseweeds (Genus Erigeron)

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cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:46 PM NZDT
unknown

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Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:43 PM NZDT
unknown

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Brambles (Genus Rubus)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:42 PM NZDT
unknown

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Karamu (Coprosma robusta)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:41 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Blackberry (Section Rubus)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:42 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Nightshades (Genus Solanum)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:38 PM NZDT
unknown

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Dicots [Paraphyletic] (Class Magnoliopsida)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:35 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Fleabanes and Horseweeds (Genus Erigeron)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:35 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Bittersweet Nightshade (Solanum dulcamara)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 02:02 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Bittersweet Nightshade (Solanum dulcamara)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:58 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Bittersweet Nightshade (Solanum dulcamara)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:57 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Karamu (Coprosma robusta)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:54 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Fleabanes and Horseweeds (Genus Erigeron)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:51 PM NZDT
unknown

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Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:50 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Inkweed (Phytolacca octandra)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:47 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Plume Thistles (Genus Cirsium)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:45 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Nightshades (Genus Solanum)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:43 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Kaihua (Parsonsia heterophylla)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:41 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Bittersweet Nightshade (Solanum dulcamara)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:38 PM NZDT
unknown

Photos / Sounds

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:38 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Groundsels (Genus Senecio)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:35 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

European Black Elderberry (Sambucus nigra)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:33 PM NZDT
unknown

Photos / Sounds

What

Californian Thistle (Cirsium arvense)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:33 PM NZDT
unknown

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What

Californian Thistle (Cirsium arvense)

Observer

cwf_lindsaywood

Date

March 20, 2024 01:33 PM NZDT
unknown
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Comments

For several years now I've used the Sought but not found field (Yes/No) in combination with my observation ID to specify what I was looking for when I didn't find anything. For example, if I searched for butterflies but found none, I'd upload an observation with the ID Papilionoidea and set "Sought but not found" to "Yes".

This hasn't been ideal because every time I do this it puts a pin on the map for Papilionoidea.

I've just added this new field, "Taxon sought but not found", so I can do this a better way. Now I can add a new observation with no ID so it doesn't show on the iNat map. Then I can specify the taxon I was looking for with "Taxon sought but not found".

I could also answer the Data Quality Assessment question "Based on the evidence, can the Community ID still be confirmed or improved?" to "No" so nobody needs to bother trying to ID it.

Posted by jon_sullivan over 5 years ago
Posted by jon_sullivan over 5 years ago

Note that the iNat app automatically adds "unknown" when a project uses this field but no entry is made into it. Ignore those in any analysis using this field.

Posted by jon_sullivan about 5 years ago

There is a much more straightforward way to do this, which would be trivially easy to implement (if there were the will at iNat central). All we need is to have it so that adding the value 0 (zero) to the observation field 'count' stops the obs from showing on the map for the taxon (or better, makes it show on the map in a different colour).

Posted by stephen_thorpe about 5 years ago

I find both this field and the Sought but not found field very problematic if they are misrepresenting observations which are occurrences by definition as a non-occurrence.

For example, if this observation https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/3053718
is actually saying that Trichosurus vulpecula was not present at that point in space and time, thats creating all sorts based on how the iNat system is interpreting data used for distributions, image recognition, reputation etc.
I'm also not understanding how this observation could be both a presence and absence of a butterfly
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/20838639
Please use https://www.inaturalist.org/trips instead for recording absence data on iNaturalist make sure we're being consistent in our interpretation of observations as the presence (not absence) of an organism at a point in space and time.

Posted by loarie about 5 years ago

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