Taxonomic Swap 132021 (Committed on 2023-10-10)

POWO (Citation)
Added by kelian_gtr on October 10, 2023 12:00 PM | Committed by kelian_gtr on October 10, 2023
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OK but if we follow then we'll have a lot of species to be swapped !
https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:9867-1#children

Posted by abounabat 12 months ago

@blue_celery @abounabat @choess
Hi, after having swaped Cirsium sect. epytrachis to Lophiolepsis , i m considering more and more it was a wrong decision because it has create an useless confusion and a huge work is required to restaure all taxas, ID.
So my question is simple, should I swap Lophiolepsis to Cirsium sect. epytrachis and add deviation ?

Posted by kelian_gtr 11 months ago

I'm afraid I don't know very much about thistles. I would look to see who are top observers/identifiers in that section, and also see if there is any relevant literature and if the authors have iNaturalist accounts, and tag those people in.

I don't always agree with POWO's lumping and splitting decisions, so I think sometimes making deviations as you've suggested is fine, but I don't know enough about this clade to judge what the right treatment is.

Posted by choess 11 months ago

no specific opinion. I'd need to check the phylogeny in order to having one...

Posted by abounabat 11 months ago
Posted by kelian_gtr 11 months ago

yes but to be a monophyletic group do not necessarily exclude the whole genus also is a good monophyletic group...

Posted by abounabat 11 months ago

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